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today I'm presenting a comparative

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perspective on the exploration for

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universal truths from both an East

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Indian philosophical tradition as

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Kashmir Shaivism and from contemporary

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Western science and as we go along I'll

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give a brief outline of relevant aspects

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of Kashmir Shaivism

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whose roots actually are lost in

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antiquity and which came to its

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flowering in the 9th to 11th centuries

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ce e an urge to know the secrets of life

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consciously or unconsciously motivates

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much of humankind the origins of the

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universe the Big Bang the four forces of

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physics the Unified Field singularities

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virtual particles all these major

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discoveries and theoretical formulations

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are important achievements of

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contemporary science these ideas and

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phenomena have analogs in kashmir

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shaivism although the specific

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nomenclature is not identical the

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concepts described are remarkably

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similar charting a comparison between

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concepts of contemporary science and

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Kashmir Shaivism

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we find that contemporary science

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talking about the ultimate cosmic

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singularity that gave rise to the Big

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Bang here matter is of infinite density

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all forces are infinite and unified the

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unified field of course time space and

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natural laws do not exist here from

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Kashmir Shaivism they say the first

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eminent principle above the created

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levels of vibration which we'll get into

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in a minute or shiva-shakti

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which is their term for it is formless

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and all pervasive but at the same time

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constitutes a small extremely compact

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mass that serves as the very seed of

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creation it is the most subtle

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expression of the power through which

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creation comes into being and it has the

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capacity to contain within itself the

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entire cosmos as an embodiment of

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ultimate realities unlimited powers

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analogous to the Unified Field of all

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forces or the powers necessary to create

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the universe it can take on any form and

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like the ultimate cosmic singularity

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that gave rise to the Big Bang it can

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produce or create any in all possible

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forms out of itself at this level of

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personal manifestation space-time and

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natural laws do not exist in this model

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either the Big Bang itself obviously

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contemporary contemporary science and

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we come to the universe manifesting

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first on the levels of vibration and

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sound as the universe developed the

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forces from the Unified Field separated

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and became the four physical forces that

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we know in physics today the nuclear

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electromagnetic weak and gravity quoting

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more of them of these forces acts at

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every level from the microscopic to the

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cosmological things together and yet

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keep them separated in just such a way

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that we in the universe are here and

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from Kashmir Shaivism quoting from a

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monastic scholar of Kashmir Shaivism one

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of the primary powers of universal

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reality is the power of action and they

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call it the term is Kriya Shakti Kriya

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translating to action Shakti translating

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to power as manifestation ensues Kriya

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unites them it maintains the world is

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separate from us and also keeps the

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objects in the world separate from each

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other so that the world does not become

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an amorphous conglomerate of matter

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force and it establishes how forms

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interact with each other in space the

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writings of the Eastern traditions in

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general use an economy of words they

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often a single concept has multiple

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meanings or multiple purposes for

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example the model here on the flip chart

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and I don't expect you to be able to

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read it it's just for effect mostly and

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when I use the bottom and the top here

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for illustration it's at once the

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manifestation of the universe

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and the manifestation of a human being

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so we had the concept of us as a

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hologram coming from the 10th century

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furthermore the model can be understood

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vertically as a movement from ultimate

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reality or consciousness with a capital

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matter at the bottommost level here and

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back again or if I could flip this 90

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degrees it could be seen horizontally as

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away from an object during the act of

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perception to quote a Kashmir Shaivism

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scholar perception serves in this way as

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a paradigm for cosmic Genesis and as a

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means of realizing the oneness and

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creativity of ultimate reality according

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to Kashmir Shaivism creation or

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manifestation is a subject/object

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relationship the only way we know that

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the universe exists is because we

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perceive it therefore the universe

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exists as a relationship that and that

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between the perceiver and that which is

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universal manifestation is ultimate

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transcendent and imminent and it's of

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two inseparable aspects they're often

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referred to as AI or Shiva and am as

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Shakti taken together in this model they

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constitute what's called the supreme

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we just talked about in that parallel

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ago ultimate reality or consciousness

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then becomes it's not an event of

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creation but a becoming it becomes the

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universe and all that's manifested in it

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through a process of thirty four stages

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of vibrational transformation known as

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the tates or principles of creation it

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becomes what it needs to be here and

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here and here in order for the universe

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to manifest while at the same time

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changeless principle according to

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Kashmir Shaivism of all changing

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included in what's known as the realm of

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pure creation in there

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Shaivism all that is separated from

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consciousness is considered impure term

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and all that is in a state of unity or

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identity with it is considered pure in

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this realm the idea of the object or

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space-time nor natural law exists for

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consider creation of the universe as a

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historic event in the realm of pure

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universe is created anew in every

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creation here due to certain vibrational

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processes that are absolutely necessary

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this process it is said consciousness

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separation from its own expansive state

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from the flow of consciousness imperfect

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an identity of being separate from it

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subject to the limitations of time space

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and natural law so that's where it comes

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consciousness we may perceive who we are

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level of mind which comes in about right

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principle of the individual experiences

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level notice Purusha yet another

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level of impure creation that is that

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derives from the presence of identical

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principles residing within

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the individual perceiver because

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consciousness becomes contracted has the

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body of the entire universe in a

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contracted form at this level we're

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unaware or unconscious of our status as

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a hologram of the absolute everything

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hologram of ultimate reality this is

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universe studying the universe colored

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state of consciousness this state as we

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course can vary significantly from one

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person to another due to each individual

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perceivers unique attributes it's just

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experience this could be one of the

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reasons that replicability of some

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experimental work is a time so difficult

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the self our true nature and birthright

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the ultimate at the level of ultimate

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reality and it is a state of

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consciousness attainable and in which

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human form and here all the wavering

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manifestation model outlines the

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involution of supreme consciousness its

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involvement into matter it also maps out

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the stages of human evolution and

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transformation whereby we can reach that

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state where we always have access to

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inspiration and creativity it's here

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that we can finally come to a complete

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realization about the mysteries of the

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universe and including who we really are

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we're afforded opportunities to traverse

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reality here is to double back on itself

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happen in more than one way of course we

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can of our own intention and volition

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change the direction of our perception

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supreme consciousness continuously

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into itself at fantastically high speed

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level each time whether or not and

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experience the vibrational levels above

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virtually countless super high-speed

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flashes called a bosses and which may by

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the way have some relationship to the

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mysterious instantaneous appearance and

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disappearance of electron positron pairs

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from a human developmental perspective

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that means under the right circumstances

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at any point of time in the moment of

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transformation to the highest states of

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consciousness we could remain there or

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at the very least change in some way

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with respect to what happens to be what

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appears to be predicted phenomena in our

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EEG research as just described Kashmir

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Shaivism posits that we transform in a

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state of consciousness above space and

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time repeatedly due to the Apostles when

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in the state of space and above space

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and time then we would have access to

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all information where the past present

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or future most of the time most of us

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aren't conscious of this experience but

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we may not need to be conscious of it

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for the RG is to register these discrete

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events and furthermore by now a large

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percentage of the population does some

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kind of a psycho spiritual practice

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whether it's meditation prayer

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contemplation and that alone may enhance

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the registering of these events with the

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re G's similar reasoning could help

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explain revote remote viewing or any of

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the other predictive or retrospective

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anomalous phenomena and lastly to

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address the nature of UFOs with this

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model

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as I stated earlier one of a number of

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the aspects of the model of

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manifestation is that there are

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perceivers at various stages of this

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universal manifestation emitted the

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meditation master most responsible for

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introducing kashmir shaivism to the west

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Swami Muktananda once entered into

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discussion with a UFO researcher in the

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mid 70s regarding this phenomena and in

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part he said this it's true that only

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through spirituality and faith can you

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discover the truth about UFOs UFOs do

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exist and the inhabitants of higher

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realms do visit the earth they can also

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take on any form they choose he went on

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to provide other information including

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the fact that this has been happening

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from ancient times that these beings

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from another higher plane come to do

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beneficial and helpful things often to

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spiritually initiate people here on

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earth but people tend to be frightened

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and don't understand what's happening

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the planes or vibrational levels

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referred to here are those above

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space-time again in this kashmir

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shaivism model in the pure creation

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these higher planes also represent the

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higher states of consciousness of Yogi's

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who perform psycho spiritual practices

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so in closing in order to truly

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understand Universal reality or the

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reality of the universe Kashmir Shaivism

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maintains that a person should attempt

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to attain the realization that they are

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one with consciousness

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it would seem then that we as scientists

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were searching for the truths of the

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universe each in our own way could

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benefit greatly by striving to attain

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these levels as Kashmir Shaivism would

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say that ultimately reach that level of

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supreme consciousness thank you

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another model of the relationship

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between purusa and prakruti comes out of

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the evolutionary perspective where we're

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breathing in the spirit and out the

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manifestation but in in time and of

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course with special relativity we all

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have different frames of reverence but

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if the universe is expanding more or

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less evenly then we can talk about time

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unfolding in more of a linear way do you

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see any hope for an integration of

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Eastern and Western perspectives in

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regarding this issue I sure hope so

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actually and all the work I do I tend to

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want to help with the bridging even if

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it's in when it has to do with

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complimentary medicine I because I think

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that with with the combination there's

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there's going to be such an if you will

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synergy of not only development but also

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also I think improvement in health and

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well-being if if we can begin to pull

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this in and I don't think it has to be

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seen as something that's not scientific

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I think as we look at some of these

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other models these especially the

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eastern models there are intimations of

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some of the things that we're

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discovering or continuing to discover

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about in physics today and in other

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areas so I see a lot of hope and I

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personally know a number of scientists

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who draw both from their their personal

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psycho-spiritual readings and study as

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much as from their scientific work to

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get inspiration so yeah I we could all

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use the inspiration to move forward with

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things I think just a question regarding

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Gnosticism do you connect it with your

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with what you're doing regarding

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knowledge in the higher realms

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I specialize more in one in this

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particular area I know

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a little bit about other areas but I

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don't claim to be an expert so I think

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there are a number of the reason there

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are so many paths and ways of

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understanding or attempting to

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understand the world are there so many

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different types of us who are looking to

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understand it

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so I see them all including Gnosticism

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at some valid ways of of coming to these

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how do you go about changing a linear

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belief system which is Western

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civilization into a nonlinear police

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system which is eastern civilization and

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even the process of which they if they

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observe things it's different than the

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way we observe things they see the whole

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picture we see a spot they process

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mathematics differently than we do so

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there is a definite cultural

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disadvantage we're talking to languages

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that don't even seem to be in the same

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page there's no translation what I'm

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saying good point good point I think

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that's why the translational work is so

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important and I think there are more and

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more of us that are attempting to do

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that very thing not only because of the

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cultural differences but the human

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developmental differences as well nobody

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knows exactly where any of us are with

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that and I think the more we can study

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and learn from each other and each

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other's cultures the the broader of an

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area we're going to be able to come to

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understand that's right there are many

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differences and I but I think they're

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overcome abble if that's a word